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Thursday, January 29, 2009

Heartbreaking Marriage Elimination Story

"Narrow-minded bigots" have eliminated the marriage of a loving couple, "destroying" a family. What will this do to their child? They share a home and a life. How can people be so cruel? They live in Romania, so the UN should get involved in this ASAP. A court has annulled their marriage, and to add insult to injury, the court even fined the couple – and had the option of jailing them. Their child - naturally conceived by them - may still be taken away.
Luminita fled her village Dobrovat aged 17 because of a violent alcoholic father. She turned up 20 miles away in Mogosesti where Vasile saw her living on the streets and offered her a home.
Now how can anyone not see the love? Perhaps if there were some advertisements run during a major televised sporting event, we could see just how normal they are. They are dealing with "discrimination" and "hate":
Vasile said: "People treat us like we have the plague. It is harder for me to find a job now and people are not nice to us anymore."
And religious people are using "hate speech" against them:
They say God will punish us one day for what we are doing." Luminita added: "We will accept any legal solution for our case but we want our daughter to stay with us."
Sounds a lot like what we've been hearing in human interest stories from news sources sympathetic to the marriage neutering cause, right? Except that we're dealing with a man and woman who are both biological parents to their child, and here in California, couples who obtained the court-created neutered marriage licenses before the passage of the California Marriage Amendment are not being fined, have not had their marriages annulled by a court, and nobody is threatening to take away any of the children in their homes. So, this couple has it worse. But why? Well, as it turns out, what they didn’t know is that, although they grew up 20 miles apart and didn't meet until they were grown, they share the same biological mother. She told them after the couple lived together for three years and were expecting their child. Although I need not argue that their marriage should be valid or invalid, I defy any marriage neutering proponent to explain why this couple shouldn't have their marriage licensed or recognized by the state if they move to, say, California, and yet two men or two women should be able to get a state-issued marriage license. Remember – they already have a child together. Shouldn't that child be protected by having her parents legally married if they so choose?

Wednesday, January 28, 2009

The Straight Dope

A new blog called MoralAccountability.com has done a rare thing. It has aired the truth about the democrat and Obama administrations real stance on same-sex ”marriage”

Its not often you get an article that lays out how the media is helping the Democrats and Obama in particular thread the needle in advancing neutered marriage.

When you know the in & outs of the law you come to realize that it’s a charade and the only real concern of marriage neutering politicians is trying to avoid any political fallout.

This is were the newly minted, erstwhile, temporary federalists come into play. Well, Obama being the media darling he is has escaped all accountability for his obvious support of same-sex “marriage”.

The article is called Cloaking Extremism: Obama and Same-Sex Marriage by Matthew J. Franck is the Chairman of Political Science at Radford University where he teaches American government, constitutional law, American political thought, and political philosophy. An occasional contributor of articles to National Review Online,

Here are some highlights - but do read the whole thing.

Notwithstanding Obama’s implicitly friendly attitude toward the agenda of same-sex marriage, the national media treated the candidate as being actively opposed to gay marriage, supportive of civil unions, and believing that a federal constitutional amendment was merely unnecessary because the states all look after themselves in defining marriage.

Obama’s have-it-both-ways position made it possible for both sides to cite his support in the Prop 8 campaign in California.

The barest fig leaf remains here of favoring civil unions but not quite endorsing same-sex marriage as such. But the Obama administration is devoted to “equal” status for same-sex couples in every significant respect, for universal application of all the “federal legal rights and benefits” currently available only to married couples, and for repeal of DOMA entirely, including its shield against judicial decisions requiring interstate recognition of same-sex marriages.

It ends with this obvious if unreported truth...

Active participants in the marriage debate understand President Obama perfectly. We who defend the historic tradition of marriage know he is our adversary. “Gay rights” advocates who keep pressing judges to give them a victory know he is completely their friend. Yet somehow the elite media continue to cultivate an image of the president as a “moderate” who occupies the “middle ground” of favoring only “civil unions” and standing fast against “gay marriage.” This presidential image helps one side in the debate - the radical side that would destroy an institution whose history is coterminous with that of human civilization.

Astute political journalists must know better than to believe the image they cultivate. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that they do know better, that they know they are helping the same-sex marriage advocates win the day while also helping President Obama keep those advocates at arm’s length and maintain his popularity with the wider public. But it is essential, for the sake of a candid debate on this vital issue, that the new president be seen not as standing between the contending partisans and above the fray, but as fully invested in the ultimate victory of the radical destroyers of the institution of marriage.

Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Holding The Line

Culture 11 has an article by Joseph M. Knippenberg, entitled: A False Truce? - Civil unions and the promise of culture wars becalmed. He stresses how almost any compromise only hurts advocates of marriage, and how any truce is only temporary and naive to accept.

Here I present the heart of the matter – It contains a useful understanding of how same-sex “marriage” argumentation only serves to undermine the important institution of marriage itself.

“The likeliest tack he will take is one advanced recently by the University of Michigan's Douglas Laycock, a well-regarded legal scholar and First Amendment specialist. Laycock argues that the state should get out of the marriage business, leaving the sanctification of bonds to the churches. The state, he says, ought to restrict itself to granting civil unions to any couple that seeks one. If you want all the legal rights and privileges that we now accord to marriage, you have to go to the state for a civil union. If you want to be united before the eyes of God and the church, you get married. By itself, a church wedding gives you no legal rights and privileges. It is a "private" religious ceremony with no earthly consequences.”

This position has the merit, some might argue, of preserving the sanctity of marriage and denying that anyone is entitled, as a matter of right, to claim that sanctification. In other words, this position denies same-sex marriage advocates the cultural victory they have been seeking, forcing them to settle for mere legal, as opposed to "cultural," equality.

“But it achieves this end by, in effect, privatizing marriage and elevating the legal status of civil unions. The legal respect and privileges accorded the latter will inevitably be seen as tokens on public approbation, while precisely no worldly privileges will attend to the former, which will just as inevitably betoken a certain public indifference (at best) or hostility (at worst). The religious character of marriage is "saved" by being, in effect, trivialized in the eyes of the public.”

(I also note that once we treat relationships as mere contractual and hence conventional, there is no principled ground on which to resist all sorts of creativity in our arrangements. Why not more than two partners, for example?)

Same-sex “marriage” by the very call of the demand, drives society to question the very purpose of marriage. Once its procreative and opposite sex aspects are rejected their exists no reason to not include a myriad of other forms, extend many of its benefits to multiple care giving arrangements, or abolish the institution entirely.

For many this is a feature (I’m afraid) and not a bug.

Monday, January 26, 2009

LA Times Letter Writer Asks a Good Question

The Los Angeles Times printed some letters responding to a recent editorial. One in particular stood out to me. John Tintle of Nipomo, California wrote:
Name one civil right that requires permission and consent from another person, a license from the state and a presiding official. You can't, because marriage is not a right but a privilege that can be revoked by either partner at any time.
Mr. Tintle is right. The Second Amendment notes a right to bear arms, but we still have limits on licensing when it comes to gun ownership. However, no presiding official is needed, and if you can make the gun yourself you won't need anyone else to sell it to you. You can pick up a rock to defend yourself without getting anyone else's help or permission.

Friday, January 23, 2009

In defence of Polygamy, Liberal cites Gay Marriage

The Liberal government of British Columbia, Canada, has been very reluctant to file charges against polygamists. But with a provincial election pending in the springtime, the Liberals have finally found a special prosecutor who will take two polygamists to court on criminal charges.

However, he does so against the advice of the government's two previous Attorneys General.

Meanwhile a former member of the Liberal government will defend one of the two accused men who are leaders of seperate sects of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the small community of Bountiful.

The Province:

Winston Blackmore will have a former Liberal MLA as part of his defence team when he appears in court Tuesday on polygamy charges.

Nelson lawyer Blair Suffredine, the MLA for Nelson-Creston until 2005, said he has taken on the case of the outspoken Bountiful polygamist, who is believed to be married to 17 wives.

Suffredine noted the law now permits two people of the same sex to marry and attitudes have changed toward gay marriage in modern times.

In light of that change, “it seems a little difficult to imagine how the polygamy section will survive a Charter challenge where it’s actually somebody who genuinely believes that under their religion and has practised it for many years,” said Suffredine, adding he personally does not support polygamy.

[continued...]

The Vancouver Sun:

Blair Suffredine, who's representing Bountiful resident Winston Blackmore, says they'll be making the argument that the Canadian definition of marriage, which includes same-sex couples, should then also include multiple partners.

Even without having seen the disclosures, Suffredine said his client will plead not guilty and will not dispute most of the evidence.

Canwest News Service:

Winston Blackmore, one of two men from a B.C. Mormon colony charged with polygamy, shot back Thursday that the charges against them are an attack on religious freedoms and accused the B.C. government of grandstanding as a provincial election looms later in the year.

[...]

"Canada also has a Charter of Rights and Freedoms that guarantees every person the right to live their religion [...]"said Blackmore who, over the years, has made no secret of his multiple marriages.

[...]

"This is not about polygamy. Tens of thousands of polygamists among many different cultures are hiding in plain sight all across Canada,"added Blackmore.

"They are known by their neighbours, policemen, legislators and media just as we are . . . But they are not Fundamentalist Mormons! To us this is about religious persecution. Persecution has always been about politics."

Global TV: The Polygamy Connundrum.

Nothing more starkly illustrates the town's and maybe even the country's divide over polygamy than Blackmore's defence team. It includes Blair Suffredine, the former Liberal MLA for Nelson-Creston, who during his single term had several meetings with local activists who urged him to do something about Bountiful.

"It's an interesting complication," Suffredine said Tuesday. "But it's not a conflict of interest. My time as an MLA gave me a good opportunity to see both sides of the issue."

Note: The Liberal Party in Ontario has also been reluctant to charge polygamists. It was the former federal Liberal Party of Canada which wrote the law that merged SSM with marriage across the country.

The National Post:

This week the Liberal government of Ontario has continued to dissemble on polygamy when pressed by Conservative MPP Lisa MacLeod and NDP MPP Cheri DiNovo — this, despite the fact that we have a woman, Safa Rigby, on the public record saying she is a victim of polygamy, and an Imam, Ali Hindy, on the public record saying he has performed polygamous marriages and that sharia law trumps Canadian law.

Last week when I wrote about this it was clear that the Liberal MPP answering opposition questions on polygamy made little sense.

[...]

Mr. McMeekin was simply wrong to suggest Section 293 is only applicable if a polygamous marriage is registered. Here is what Section 293(1) says:

“Every one who

(a) practises or enters into or in any manner agrees or consents to practise or enter into

(i) any form of polygamy, or

(ii) any kind of conjugal union with more than one person at the same time, whether or not it is by law recognized as a binding form of marriage, or (b) celebrates, assists or is a party to a rite, ceremony, contract or consent that purports to sanction a relationship mentioned in subparagraph (a)(i) or (ii), is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.”

[...]

All of this dithering by Dalton McGuinty's government suggests that rather than protect women like Safa Rigby and her children from the scourge of polygamy, Ontario’s Liberals are trying to spin their way out of their duty to uphold Section 293. That spin continued Wednesday in the Legislature when, following more questions from the opposition, Mr. McMeekin complained, “Repeated calls for interference in police investigations are not helpful. It unfairly discredits police, diminishes public respect for the work that they do every single day and unfairly jeopardizes public safety.”

The opposition is not asking the government to interfere in an investigation. Ms. MacLeod and Ms. DiNovo simply want an investigation into polygamy now that there is evidence that polygamy is occurring. Considering that Toronto Police Services have said they are not engaged in such an investigation, is it really too much to ask Ontario’s government to ensure that Toronto police do investigate?

Also see, The Associated Press report:

The case is the first to test Canada's polygamy laws.

Winston Blackmore, 52, and James Oler, 44, are each accused of being married to more than one woman at a time. The charges carry a maximum penalty of five years in prison, British Columbia Attorney General Wally Oppal said.

But Blackmore's lawyer, Blair Suffredine, said during a telephone interview that marriage standards in Canada have changed.

"If (homosexuals) can marry, what is the reason that public policy says one person can't marry more than one person?" said Suffredine, a former provincial lawmaker [former Liberal member of the provinical legislature]. Canada's Parliament extended full marriage rights to same-sex couples in 2005.

Suffredine said the case is also about religious persecution.

Blackmore and Oler lead rival polygamous factions in Bountiful, a town in southeastern British Columbia. Blackmore is charged with marrying 20 women and Oler is accused of marrying two women.

Blackmore openly acknowledges having numerous wives and dozens of children but has said his community abhors sexual abuse of children.

* * *

The locus of decision-making and power in the [former?] democracy of Canada has shifted from duly elected bodies and elections to courtrooms and legal briefs. Judge-made law has become the default in a country that once valued parliamentary supremacy as integral to the exercise of responsible government.

The comment section is open for your comments.

Wednesday, January 21, 2009

California Legislature Undeterred by Marriage Amendment

Aurelio Rojas of the Sacramento Bee reports that California legislators continue to try to deal with the inherent difference between marriage and other kinds of voluntary associations by proposing more laws.
Assembly Bill 103 by Assemblyman Kevin de León, D-Los Angeles, would allow two people, including same-sex couples, who co-own a home to avoid having their property tax reassessed and raised when one dies.
California law already treats domestic partners as spouses. So this appears to be a way to extend this to couples who don't bother to register as domestic partners or get married. Will this extend to anyone who is shacking up? Platonic roommates? I have a great idea… a grandparent can buy a home and list a newborn grandchild as co-owner. That family won't have to deal with substantial property tax increases for 80 years or more!
Meanwhile, Sen. Mark Leno plans to re-introduce legislation – vetoed last year by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger – that would designate each May 22 as Harvey Milk Day and encourage schools to commemorate the life of the late gay-rights activist.
Remember how, before the election, that crowd wanted people to believe that schools are not engaging in homosexual advocacy?
Leno and a fellow San Franciscan, Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, also are carrying identical, nonbinding resolutions that would put the Legislature at odds with voters who last year approved Proposition 8…Resolution 7 and House Resolution 5 would make it official state policy that Proposition 8 was an invalid revision to the California Constitution.
So now someone in the legislature wants the legislature to pass a law that overrides a Constitutional Amendment?
It would also set forth that any change to the constitution that would eliminate a fundamental right from a minority group must be passed by the Legislature before being placed on the ballot.
I wonder what their definition of a "fundamental right" is, and I just have to know – how can this very legislation not be a constitutional revision if Prop 8 is?
De León, whose district has many gay couples, said he's heard "heartbreaking" stories of survivors who are forced to give up their homes when their partner dies and property is reassessed. "People who live and own a home together and are unmarried, whether by choice or because of the law, should be treated equally to married couples," he said.
Why? Where does this "should" come from? What is the moral obligation to treat all nonmarriage couplings the same as marriage, or to treat shacking up the same as a domestic partnership? And what about people who are single?
But Kors said that because the federal government does not recognize domestic partnerships – and doesn't extend gay couples the benefits accorded married couples – some same-sex couples in California don't register their unions with the state.
This makes no sense. The federal government does not collect property taxes. If someone doesn’t exercise options already offered to them by the state, that does not mean we should relax the requirements even more.
Kors said other same-sex couples don't do so because they are unwilling to accept anything short of marriage.
Don't forget both-sex couples who don’t "believe" in marriage.
Leno, in line to become chairman of the Legislature's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Caucus,
What, no "queer", "questioning", or "eunuch"? I didn't realize this caucus existed. By the way, California has a budget deficit of scores of billions of dollars and lawmakers are required to balance the budget. But there is always time for some homosexual advocacy.

LATimes Editorial: Obama Should Support Marriage Neutering

The Los Angeles Times is back to a hard-sell of neutered marriage licensing and a subjugation of majority rights. They subtitle this editorial, with the misleading headline "Now About Gay Marriage", as follows:
On the heels of Pastor Rick Warren's invocation, Obama should drop the semantics and acknowledge that denying same-sex marriage is discriminatory.
How come they use "same-sex" and "gay" interchangeably? Are they so bigoted as to deny that two heterosexual men would be just as deserving of a neutered marriage license? What if two heterosexual men both wanted to raise a child within a legal marriage without the risk of losing custody of that child to a woman? Second point: All laws, regulations, votes, and decisions are discriminatory. That doesn't make them wrong or unconstitutional. The editorial board discriminated in choosing to once again call on elected officials to subvert the will of the people, when they could have written about something else. They really do spend way too much time on this.
President Obama is too, but on Tuesday he swore allegiance to a document quite separate from the Bible: the U.S. Constitution, which forbids all forms of discrimination.
This is demonstrably and obviously false. It is shocking that the editorial board of a major metropolitan newspaper could spout such nonsense.
Obama showed how clearly he understood that in his inaugural address, when he said: "The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better history; to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea, passed on from generation to generation: the God-given promise that all are equal, all are free and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness." It is impossible to adhere to those principles while also proposing that some citizens should have fewer rights than others for no better reason than the majority disapproves of their sexual preference.
One need not disapprove of homosexual behavior to affirm that state marriage licenses should not be issued to voluntary associations absent a bride or a groom, or to believe that a court does not have justification to change state marriage licensing in this regard. Furthermore, equality of access does not mean each person will have an equal desire to exercise that access. Notice that they used the word "preference". Interesting. They finish the editorial with the tired race card, saying that Obama should sympathize because his parents had divergent skin colors from each other (because some states in the past had laws actually banning such marriages). Notice that his parents were able to produce him through natural means with each other. Who would the Los Angeles Times appeal to with this kind of argument if marriage had been neutered before some places had their "interracial" ban lifted? Same-sex coupling never produces a new person through natural means. One the website, they are taking comments for a limited time. Join the noise if you so desire.

Tuesday, January 20, 2009

Why Yes..it is “Chilly” in here….

This article in the New York Times inspired a blog post over at Culture 11.

“Some gay activists have organized Web sites to actively encourage people to go after supporters of Proposition 8,” said Frank Schubert, the campaign manager for Protect Marriage, the leading group behind the proposition. “And giving these people a map to your home or office leaves supporters of Proposition 8 feeling especially vulnerable. Really, it is chilling.”

That in turn elicited this response from a poster un-ashamed to post his full name & his own Link to his page

John Bisceglia Says:

January 16th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

When “religions” persecute our families and “beliefs” have influenced U.S. law: WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

ALL religions against marriage equality are hate groups, and will need to accept responsibility for their political actions, including accepting how some may react to YOUR H8 with their own hate (such as arson, sidewalk & building graffiti, bomb threats, anthrax or ricin in tithing envelopes, or regularly vandalizing your church windows). SAVE YOUR MONEY FOR REPAIRS, Haters.

When you fan the flames of HATE, you WILL get burned. Accept Responsibility.

Sunday, January 18, 2009

Newly Minted Federalists: Freedom Of Choice Act

"Newly Minted Federalists" is what Opine contributor Fitz called foes of the Federal Marriage Amendment back in 2007. Then, several senators voted against bringing the amendment to a vote on the grounds that marriage was a social issue best left to the states. Fitz doubted their sincerity at the time, and perhaps with good reason. The proposed amendment was voted down primarily on party lines with the Democrats voting against. Democrats historically have not been known for their support of states' rights.

Federalism, it seemed, was simply a convenient fig leaf behind which senators at the time hoped to hide their opposition to marriage as currently constituted. Well now we have a chance to put these newly minted federalists to the test.

Democrats are planning to introduce a sweeping bill taking away what little latitude has been left to the states in that other contentious social issue of our time: abortion. Senate Democrats, flush from their gains in the 2008 election plan on reintroducing the Freedom Of Choice Act, a bill designed to crush existing state laws regulating abortion, many of which have already been found constitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court.

I have included below the names of all Senators who opposed the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2007. I cannot research myself all of these senators to see which gave "states' rights" as their reason, but I urge Opine readers to call their senators and ask if they voted for states' rights in 2007 whether they plan on voting the same way when it comes to federalizing abortion. While you're at it, feel free to call President Elect Obama's office and get his take. In 2007 he opposed the Federal Marriage Amendment on the grounds that it should be left to the states but he promises to vote against states' rights and sign the Freedom of Choice Act if it makes it to his desk.

Senators voting against the Federal Marriage Amendment: [see inside...]

Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCain (R-AZ)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Sununu (R-NH)
Wyden (D-OR)

Full results of the vote can be found here. Votes on a house version in 2006 can be found here.

The comment section is available to post what you learn. Please post:

  1. Legislator's name, state, and congressional house (Senate or House)
  2. Whether they used states' rights as the reason for opposing FMA
  3. How they plan to vote on FOCA

[UPDATE: Contact information for U.S. Senators can be found here.]

Saturday, January 17, 2009

Obama: For Neutering Marriage Before He Was Against It

On the eve of the Obama inauguration, The Windy City Times, a "LGBT newspaper" in Chicago, is reporting that Obama, in a move that has come to typify American presidential campaigns, changed his stance on neutering marriage. Obama, who claimed to oppose neutering marriage when he was running for President, claimed to support it when running for State Senate in 1996. It turns out he also changed his stance in preparation for his run for U.S. Senate in 2004. The big question is not so much why did his position change as why is this story breaking now?

[Details within...]

In a memo in 1996, then candidate Obama outlines his gay rights agenda in response to a survey by Outlines, a now defunct local Chicago paper that billed itself as targeting the "LGBT community." According to the memo, Obama's position was unequivocal:

I favor legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages.

In his 2004 campaign for U.S. Senator, faced with a larger campaign audience, Senator Obama toned down his earlier support. In an interview with the Windy City Times, the successor to Outlines, the Senate hopeful took a more nuanced stance:

Tracy Baim: Do you have a position on marriage vs. civil unions?

Barack Obama: I am a fierce supporter of domestic- partnership and civil-union laws. I am not a supporter of gay marriage as it has been thrown about, primarily just as a strategic issue.

A few sentences later, Mr. Obama clarifies what he means by "just as a strategic issue."

TB: But you think, strategically, gay marriage isn't going to happen so you won't support it at this time?

Obama: What I'm saying is that strategically, I think we can get civil unions passed. ... I think that to the extent that we can get the rights, I'm less concerned about the name. And I think that is my No. 1 priority, is an environment in which the Republicans are going to use a particular language that has all sorts of connotations in the broader culture as a wedge issue, to prevent us moving forward, in securing those rights, then I don't want to play their game.

In other words, Barack Obama claimed the shift was just on the word marriage, that he would still be pushing for the same thing in all but name.

In 2008, for his run for President, Mr. Obama modified his stance yet again. Civil Unions are no longer a strategic compromise, they are a morally superior alternative. In Obama's response to a questionnaire from the Human Rights Campaign, Obama said:

I believe civil unions should include the same legal rights that accompany a marriage license. ...

However, I do not support gay marriage. Marriage has religious and social connotations, and I consider marriage to be between a man and a woman.

Whenever a candidate's position shifts over time and with shifting audiences one is left to ponder whether the shift is due to the time or due to the audience. Did the candidate really change his position as he had time to think about it or did he merely tune his position for the best outcome from a particular audience. We have no way of knowing.

You could argue that in opposing California's Prop. 8, Obama showed that he really does support neutering marriage as he stated in 1996, but then his opposition to Prop. 8 was symbolic only since he is not a voter in California. During his stint in the Illinois Senate, when his actions would have had actual meaning, he never took any step toward neutering marriage. What his opposition to 8 does show is that supporting marriage is definitely the right side for him to take politically. Despite his opposition and despite winning California's presidential nomination, Prop. 8 won by the same margin as Obama's presidential campaign did nationwide, which media outlets have touted as having "landslide" and "mandate" proportions.

But why is this story being released now, just days before the President-Elect's inauguration? The Windy City Times claims to be an "LGBT newspaper." Why didn't they think Mr. Obama's apparent betrayal was of interest to the "LGBT" community during the election?

And why wouldn't the main stream media, which normally loves to report on flip-flops, have reported this during the election? It certainly would have been newsworthy, and timely to voters who care about marriage. The vote in California showed such voters in ample supply. One could claim the MSM didn't know about it until the Windy City Times broke the story, but in researching this story I found this "gay conservative" blogpost dated Oct. 8 on exactly the same subject. I don't regularly read "gay conservative" blogs, but are you telling me no reporter does, either? The comment section shows there is no shortage of liberal voters who read the blog. The Windy City example shows it only takes one newspaper story to get the attention of the national media. Why weren't there any?

And what about Chicago? Are you telling me there were no reporters who were in Chicago in 1996 to witness Mr. Obama's original stance? Did no reporter even have a friend that noticed the flip-flop? That's simply beyond believable.

If one is willing to believe the press took sides in this past presidential campaign, like a Soviet TASS, it would be obvious why Mr. Obama's flip-flop would have been suppressed during the campaign, but why was it ignored since? Too many other pressing matters? Certainly the economy has dominated the headlines since, but the economy is still front page news. And now Mr. Obama's inauguration, just days away, is crowding out whatever media space is left. "Other pressing matters" is not a credible excuse.

The timing is more than coincidence. The question is, what more? Could someone be trying to send a message to Mr. Obama, or could Obama operatives themselves be trying to pave the way for a pending flip-flop again, back to his 1996 position? Time will tell.

For my part, whether a politician changes position because he truly believes in something or for political expediency is of but philosophical interest. For whatever reason a candidate adopts a particular position, he owes it to the constituents who voted on that position to uphold it. To do otherwise is a flagrant breech of the public trust and an abuse of our way of government. If Mr. Obama wants any lasting good will from the American public for his administration, he won't go flip-flopping on this issue before his next campaign.

Thursday, January 15, 2009

Rosanne Rosannadanna and Attacking Rick Warren

Opponents of Prop. 8, and supporters of neutering marriage generally, are all up in arms about Obama's choice of Rick Warren to lead the invocation at Obama's inauguration. Anne Hathaway is going to wear a ribbon to the inauguration to protest a prayer by Rev. Rick Warren, who opposes neutering marriage.

“I am against it,” Hathaway says, “My older brother is gay, and so its a family issue for me.

But Ms. Hathaway, Barrack Obama himself is opposed to neutering marriage. Not only are you celebrating his inauguration but you actively campaigned for him.

While I'm sure Ms. Hathaway doesn't blink at the contradiction, if she did, I envision Rosanne Rosannadanna's reaction: "Oh! Never mind!"

And then there's this gem by Frank Rich in the NY Times. Mr. Rich acknowledges that Obama and every other politician with a future opposes neutering marriage, but he manages to find a distinction. Rick Warren, it turns out, has equated "gay relationships" to incest and polygamy.

Rev. Rick Warren, the Orange County, Calif., megachurch preacher who has likened committed gay relationships to incest, polygamy and “an older guy marrying a child.”

Mr. Rich goes on to quote Rachel Maddow drawing from the same echo chamber:

Warren, whose ego is no less than Obama’s, likes to advertise his “commitment to model civility in America.” But as Rachel Maddow of MSNBC reminded her audience, “comparing gay relationships to child abuse” is a “strange model of civility.”

The problem is, it never happened.

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Rev. Warren never equated "gay relationships" or "committed gay relationships" to anything: not incest, not child abuse, and not polygamy. What Rev. Warren naively forgets is that opponents, particularly neutered marriage supporters, have no "commitment to model civility in America" at all, hence they find nothing wrong with misrepresenting anything Rev. Warren says. (Or anything you or I say, for that matter.)

To justify his claim, Mr. Rich points to this video in which Rev. Warren defends his support of Prop. 8. Watching the video, and noting the particular phrase quoted by Mr. Rich, it is clear to which part of the interview Mr. Rich is referring. I have transcribed it, below:

Warren: The issue to me is...is... um... th... I'm not opposed to that [relationship benefits] as much as I'm opposed to the redefinition of a 5000 year definition of marriage. I'm opposed to having a brother and sister be together and call that marriage. I'm opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that a marriage. I'm opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage.

Interviewer: Do you think those are equivalent to gays getting married?

Warren: Oh, I do. I...I...I...I just...For 5000 years marriage has been defined by every single culture and every single religion... This is not a Christian issue. Buddhist, Muslims, Jews... uh... you know... uh... Historically, marriage is a man and a woman. And so I'm opposed to that.

Because the interviewer was asking about "gays getting married," and not about "gay relationships," even if we were to truncate Rev. Warren's reply at "Oh, I do," (as Mr. Rich no doubt hopes) we cannot argue "gay relationships" is to what Rev. Warren was referring.

Yes, Rev. Warren equates incestuous marriage, polygamous marriage, and child marriage to "gays getting married," but he doesn't equate any of those relationships with each other. Clearly he is referring to the changes any of these relationships would be to marriage. You'll note Mr. Rich doesn't wax indignant over comparing polygamous relationships with incest. That's not just because he's been wearing his gay identity filter goggles a bit too tight. It's because it didn't happen. Neither did Rev. Warren equate "gay relationships" with incest.

If we read the part of Rev. Warren's comments after the "I do," he makes clear exactly why these marriage redefinitions are the same, because in Rev. Warren's view they are all redefinitions of the "5000 year definition of marriage... defined by every single culture and every single religion." Whether one agrees or disagrees with Rev. Warren's assessment of the "5000 year definition of marriage," he still was clearly referring to that and not to incest or gay relationships or polygamy themselves.

Like Ms. Hathaway, I'll give Mr. Rich the benefit of the doubt. I'll assume he's not deliberately misconstruing Rev. Warren's words to try and explain away the inconsistency Ms. Hathaway stepped into. I'll assume that like Ms. Rosannadanna, he simply wasn't paying close enough attention when watching the Warren interview. Maybe his hearing was just not quite up to snuff when he thought he heard Rev. Warren compare "gay relationships" to something they are not. I'll assume that were this brought to his attention in time he'd have filled the NY Times space with an article actually appropriate to the historic inauguration of our next President. Or at the very least, that he'd now follow up his misguided tirade with the sheepish "Never mind!" which it deserves.

Jerry Brown's Revolution

George Will, writing in the Washington Post day:

Of Judges, By Judges, For Judges.

Now comes California's attorney general, Jerry Brown -- always a fountain of novel arguments -- with a 111-page brief asking the state Supreme Court to declare the constitutional amendment unconstitutional. He favors same-sex marriages and says the amendment violates Article 1, Section 1, of California's Constitution, which enumerates "inalienable rights" to, among other things, liberty, happiness and privacy.

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He argues that:

The not-really-sovereign people cannot use the constitutionally provided amendment process to define the scope of rights enumerated in the Constitution; California's judiciary, although established by the state's Constitution, has the extra-constitutional right to supplement that enumeration by brooding about natural law, natural justice and natural rights, all arising from some authority somewhere outside the Constitution; the judiciary has the unchallengeable right to say what social policies are entailed by or proscribed by the state Constitution's declaration of rights and other rights discovered by judges.

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Brown's reasoning would establish an unassailable tyranny of a minority -- judges -- over any California majority. Brown, 70, California's former and perhaps future governor, once was a Jesuit seminarian. One American Heritage dictionary definition of "jesuitical" is "given to subtle casuistry"; one of that dictionary's definitions of "casuistry" is "specious or excessively subtle reasoning to rationalize or mislead." These definitions, although unfair to Jesuits, are descriptive of Brown's argument.

Polygamy in Canada

This past week, Colby Cash wrote in the National Post about the prosecution of a polygamist in British Columbia, Canada:

Put your money on a victory for polygamy:

If you’d asked me last week, I’d have said that a polygamy prosecution against the leaders of the fundamentalist Mormon community in Bountiful, B.C., had two chances: slim and none. On Wednesday night, the B.C. government — or, rather, an independent special prosecutor — finally took the step that has been dithered over for years and charged Winston Blackmore and James Oler under section 293 of the Criminal Code. After giving myself a quick refresher on the legal arguments, I’m no longer so sure about “slim.”

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Polygamy is a series fo marriages. For example, a man marries one woman at-a-time even as he adds a second wife or a third wife. The second wife does not marry the first wife; and neither of the first two wives marry the third woman. Each is the wife of their husband, not of each other.

In practice and in principle, I'd oppose treating polygamy on par with monogmous marriage, because of the significance of the core meaning of the social institution. Also, incestuous marriage (and tribalism) seem to coincide with polygamy and under-aged unions. This is a combination for the dismantling of our liberal democracy and very open and tolerant society. But this basis has been proundly undermined by the SSM campaign in Canada.

Obviously, polygamy is a form of marriage that is both-sexed, not one-sexed. And it does entail the contingency for responsible procreation. Major religions allow mutlple concurrent marriages but only as remedy, or prevention, of certain social ills that arise from abandonment or dire circumstances. No major religion subordinates monogamous marriage to polygamous marriage. Where cultural preference for polygamy exists, it is restricted based on concerns about family formation and well-being. Yet abuses of the allowance do occur, such as the "hoarding of wives and children" based on wealth, and that tend to become dominant in the practice. It comes to color social policy across the board.

Still, no society has sustained polygamy for all of its citzens. It is practiced by a relatively small minority wherever it is permitted. Polygamy becomes more of a privilege of wealth than an exercise in liberty.

Where the sexes are about equal in population, the practice of polygamy would quickly destablize society based on increased sex segregation. For example, if 100 men and 100 women comprised the adult population, and just 10% of the men had 3 wives each, then, 90% of the men would be left to compete for remaining 70% of the women. While most people marry, about 20% of the male population would be shut out of both monogamous and polygamous marriage.

Such a competitive scenario tends to encourage underaged bethrothals, even if only the informal kind.

And, given the common abuse of polygamous practices where it is allowed culturally, if just 1% of the men had 10 wives each, the above scenario would mean that 90% of men would compete for 60% of the women.

On one hand, the women could benefit from the social economics of supply and demand. In a society with modern protections based on consent, a woman could be at an advantage in choosing among available bachelors. The imbalance caused by polygamist would benefit the monogamist women.

On that basis, if a woman could freely choose to marry an already-married man, or to marry a man from bachelors, her pool of potential husbands is in effect 100% of the adult male population.

The practice of multi-marriage could advantage women even if some women are thus disadvantaged in particular circumstances. But divorce would be available for such women, as it is now.

However, for the sake of gender equity (as mentioned in Colby Cash's column), multi-marriage would not be restricted to men marrying mulitple women. Women, with the inclination and the means, could have multiple husbands. This might then neutralize the advantage/disadvantage ratio briefly described above.

I don't think a law in Canda could be sustained that barred either a man or woman from entering state-recognized concurrent marriages. On secular grounds, what would be the basis for such a prohibition, in the wake of the SSM merger with marriage in that country?

It can't be concerns about equal participation of the sexes in the conjugal relationship. If one sex is excluded, there can be no equality of the sexes within the arrangement. Sex equity is not the issue, then. But is that different from gender equity, somehow, and is that the wiggle room for those who support the SSM merger but oppose polygamy?

Without the core meaning of marriage, polygamy cannot be restricted based on concerns about integration of the sexes. It can'be be based on the pro-SSM side's paramount concern for integrating based on sexual orientations. Right?

Since the SSM merger deeply discounts the marital presumption of paternity, and thus negate the centrality of the contingency for responsible procreation, the anti-polygamists among the SSMers cannot defend the prohibition based on the unity of fatherhood and motherhood. They must find something else to put at the center of their prohibition -- something other than the raising of children.

Consent is not enough, either, for the SSMers must find some legal requirement that is absolutely enforced (no exceptions) based on age. The age limits do vary based on assumptions about maturity. These varied limits derive from that to which people consent when the enter marriage. So what is it that they consent to -- and how can that be used to bar multiple concurent marriages?

The issue of religious freedom is obviously raised by the particular polygamists who have been charged in British Columbia. However, as with the SSM issue, the court may filter out religion, tradition, custom, and even the core meaning of marriage. On a secular basis, is there any defence of the prohibition on polygamy that does not contradict the SSM argumentation that was used to push for the enactment of SSM in Canada?

It is not enough to say that the Government gets to decide, arbitrarily, what is and is not marriage. That was argued against, by SSMers, in the courts of Canada.

Tuesday, January 13, 2009

Jerry Brown Signed the First DOMA

Recently, the San Francisco Chronicle's political writer, Carla Marinucci, had an article discussing the fact that current California Attorney General Jerry Brown, while Governor, signed into law a bill codifying the legal definition of marriage as being a bride-groom pairing. There are lots of quotes defending Brown for his "progress" on the issue as he fights to remove California’s Marriage Amendment and prepares to run for Governor again. I found a quote in the article that stood out to me.
Veteran journalist Marty Nolan, who covered Brown for the Boston Globe in the 1970s and 1980s, said the defense represents Brown's longtime political mantra. "He's got a six-word answer - 'that was then, this is now,' " Nolan laughed. "It's an all-purpose shield."
This is an example of why we are supposed to be a nation of laws, not men, and we have a constitution and a representative republic. Opinions and votes can change over time, even if the truth and right and wrong do not. But we should not be held hostage to the whims of a single person. "That was then, this is now" is not a justification for a past or current action or policy, no more than saying "It's the twenty-first century." Yes, and the sky is blue. So? Was Brown wrong then? Is he wrong now? Why? Has a "right" to a state-licensed marriage for brideless or groomless couples emerged since the 1970s, or has it always existed and just not been recognized by flawed politicians? If the politicians were wrong then, what makes anyone so sure they are right now?

The boy who cried "Marriage"

I believe I'm given the license by the author to draw his more universal description of the equality paradox to this particular debate. Thomas F. Bertonneau'w work is relayed by the Brussels Journal, one of the best responses to the eroding tide of nihilism. This little chunk has the real flavor of the whole piece, though fun sized for all of us...

Now in an imperfect world anything that can be used can also be abused. So it is with language, by means of which one can either tell the truth or prevaricate. The very Muses tell this to Hesiod, when, in the prologue to his Theogony, he describes how they inspired him with knowledge of things divine. “We can tell the truth or we can lie,” say the Muses. There is a morality, not just an epistemology, of discerning the essences of things and endowing on them a proper label. One of Aesop’s Fables, “The Story of the Boy who Cried Wolf,” gives an illuminating minimal example of the abuse of naming. I owe a debt of gratitude to my teacher and dissertation adviser of the 1980s, Eric Gans, for pointing out the interest of this story.

Be sure to read the rest of this excellent essay...

Monday, January 12, 2009

They Who Would Be King Neutered Marriagists

Those in the entertainment industry rarely raise the standards of human conduct and behavior. Particularly when it comes to marriage, they instead tend to exemplify the opposite. So low are our expectations of movie stars that when one of them does what the majority of us do every day, honor our marriage commitments, it is often newsworthy.

This insider's view shows that even when it comes to neutering marriage, the "theatrical community" continues to set new lows of human conduct. We all know the case of Scott Eckern, the Sacramento theater manager who was forced out of his job for supporting Proposition 8 in California. Stage Right, the author of the post, shows that what happened behind the scenes was even worse than what we have heard. Drawing on Mao and other despots, the "theatrical community" shows the fascism and totalitarian extremes that make up the worst of the neutered marriage movement and which were on open display in the weeks following the vote on Prop 8. (In fact, criticism by any neutered marriage supporters of this or any other event that happened after Prop 8 has been muted, to say the least.)

I was fortunate [OpEd: Fortunate??] enough to witness this witch-hunt from inside the Facebook bubble that helped create it. You see, one of my friends, actress Susan Egan, circulated an open letter to all of her friends. And then her friends circulated it to their friends and well, by now you know what happened. Her letter has been reported many times and she seems proud of her involvement in this episode. She actually wrote her initial letter and then, within 24 hours wrote a follow-up. The full text of Susan Egan’s original letter can be found here. Her follow-up letter is harder to come by, but it contains much more revealing information. In the spirit of “full context” I include the entire second letter here: (my comments follow below)

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I read this letter and I got ONE message: Believe what you want, but if you work here, you better keep your mouth shut and you better not be politically active or be ready for the consequences.

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I have pointed out before how quickly the neutered marriage activists ran to copy their playbook from China's Chairman Mao. Right Wing notes the same:

Mr. Eckern was forced to resign his job and livelihood because, out of his religious convictions, he took a political position. And, in Susan’s words: “I preserve the possibility for a happy ending… that Scott will embrace his theatrical friends, realize the hurt he has caused, and genuinely make amends. Anything less and I personally do not consider him a member of this cherished theatrical community. “ And, how does she suggest “amends” can be made? “to write a public apology for offending so many in this theatre world we all share. I’d also love to see him donate another $1000 towards an organization of his choosing that would attest to his commitment to the gay and lesbian communities…” I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to suggest that this is a tiny [OpEd: Tiny??] step toward Mao’s tactics in the cultural revolution. This person must be publicly shamed and humiliated and we will extract a fine for his transgressions.

Also, what about this: “Prudence in refusing to donate towards the cause and remaining quiet in his personal beliefs would have served him greatly.” Translation: If he were smart, he would have just shut his mouth.

And did you catch this line? “Anything less and I personally do not consider him a member of this cherished theatrical community” . Get it? If you don’t agree with our point of view, you don’t belong in this business. Go work somewhere else with people who think like you.

Far from being ashamed of their own intolerance, Right Wing gives us an insight into the hollow self congratulations the "theatrical community" exuded in the wake of what they did to Scott, his wife, and children.

One other disturbing part of Susan’s posting on Facebook. It received close to 100 comments from her friends lauding her “courage” for speaking out. Courage! Please… In this industry, what Susan did was the opposite of courage… does ANYONE doubt that she would have been applauded for her actions? Please! The self-delusion here is almost funny. Susan herself suggests that Mr. Eckern would have shown courage by standing up and being a lone voice in dissent of his church’s position on same-sex marriage, yet she can only find contempt for his standing up and being a lone voice in the theatre world in support of traditional marriage.

In fact, far from Susan showing courage, a cynic might think that since she was quickly aligning herself with a recent Tony Award winning composer, Marc Shaiman, she might have known that this public stance would put her in very good stead with the powers-that-be in our industry. It’s not a secret that a huge number of writers, directors and producers (you know, the men doing the hiring) are gay men. Yes, in theatre, gay men!

Right Wing correctly shows it was Mr. Eckern who showed courage, not Ms. Egan. Ms. Egan's stance was just as likely sycophantic as principled. That Scott Eckern knew what the potential fate was of standing up for what he believed is made all the more clear by Stage Right's own poignant confession earlier in the article, the confession that gives the article its title, I’m Spartacus! No, I’m Scott Eckern:

I felt like calling all of my friends in the theatre industry and saying “I’M SCOTT ECKERN!” I felt like responding to all of the e-mails I received from my colleagues urging me to join the drive to remove him from his post by saying: “I’M SCOTT ECKERN!” “If you take him, you should take me! ” Like all those slaves standing in solidarity with Spartacus. I was also an executive in the industry with similar views. There but for the grace of God….

But I didn’t stand up and shout. I didn’t because I am a coward. I didn’t because I have children and a mortgage and I might need the next job that comes along so I keep my mouth shut.

But make no mistake, there are many of us working in the theatre industry and the spectacle that was Scott Eckern’s ouster was terrifying and enraging to us. Many readers of Big Hollywood suggest that as long as we are effective in our jobs and we “put butts in seats” then we should have the courage to speak out and fight for our beliefs even if we are a minority in a hostile environment…. I hope this morality tale speaks to you…

The cowardice of Stage Right and his like minded compatriots in the "theatrical community" certainly is in keeping with the low standards of human conduct I mentioned earlier. Stage Right is not proud of what he did or of the others who should have acted. The point is, though, if this troupe knows the consequences of standing up for their beliefs, no doubt Scott Eckern knew, too. The difference? Scott Eckern did it, anyway. And so little malice did Mr. Eckern have for the "theatrical community" that was simultaneously attacking and abandoning him that he quietly resigned rather than outing the their fascism by forcing them to fire him over the issue. Scott Eckern is clearly the exception that proves the rule about the brave new lows that have become the hallmark of the "theatrical community" at large.

Right Wing concludes by addressing one last letter from Ms. Egan about Scott Eckern:

Let’s take a look at how Susan summed up her biggest objection to Mr. Eckern exercising his rights of free speech and association: “My beef with Scott was his use of money made from the blood, sweat and tears of the gay community towards the prohibition of the civil rights of that same group.”

The Orwellian use of “civil rights” in the context of a man forced to resign for making a private, political contribution is too easy of a target (isn’t free association and the expression of political ideas the very first of our civil rights?), …

Right Wing sums it up best:

You see, this is the world I work in. The “Theatrical Community” as it is so often referred to. A community where a respected executive with decades of exemplary service to his city and to his industry donates money to a proposition that merely maintains the legal definition of marriage as one man and one woman, and he must step down in shame. Mr. Eckern was great at his job. He got “butts in the seats”. He is now unemployed.

If only we had our own Arthur Miller to write a new version of The Crucible.

Hattip: KingFisher

Saturday, January 10, 2009

Of Man and Woman, Masculinity and Femininity

[Not wishing to go too far off on a tangent at Fitz' post on "Loyalty Oaths for Attorneys" I briefly address Seda's subject of gender identity and defining man and woman here.]

"I do not believe that a brave woman, who was raised in men's clothing by her family, can be denied this right after she has carried out the dangerous duties in a praiseworthy fashion." Charles-Genevieve Louis-Auguste-Andre-Timothee d'Eon de Beaumont (b. 1728) requesting that "she" be allowed to wear the Cross of St. Louis. He lied and deceived right to his death. He was indeed a man according to the five examiners of his body when he died.

There are of course many such accounts from Joan of Arc to Catalina de Erauso with different reasons for cross-dressing. Today women are simply allowed to serve in the military where they all essentially wear "men's" clothing.

According to Deborah Rudacille there are ". . . members of the (straight) public who believe that a man who wears dresses can't possibly be heterosexual, even if he sleeps with women only, just as some gay Americans believe that a female-bodied person who dresses like a man must be a masculine lesbian. Both gays and straights have a hard time believing that both of these individuals might in fact be heterosexual men."

This is nonsense! A female bodied person, regardless of how she dresses remains a woman. And the male-bodied person remains a man. Neither one becomes a chimpanzee if he or she puts on a chimpanzee's mask. There are all sorts of bizarre things that people do that does not transform what they are biologically.

Here's more shallow nonsense from Rudacille: "My identity as a woman is clearly visible in hundreds of small and large ways. When you pass me on the street, your brain registers my long hair, makeup, skirt, pocketbook, and painted nails, and renders the verdict "female."

She sees "woman" in all the most superficial things and completely ignores the person's biology. She defines "woman" by behaviors and so if she decides to behave like a chimpanzee she must be a chimpanzee. People need to stop reading and believing this gobbledygook. This is confounding language to support a political agenda whether she is conscious of it or not. You are not necessarily what you think you are or the schizophrenic imagining himself Napoleon must be Napoleon.

It is correct to say a person has feminine or masculine traits but to then jump to the nonsense conclusion of identifying traits and behaviors with a biological condition is preposterous. You can see how young people can be easily confused by such verbiage.

(I'm still pondering writing an article on the androgyne. It's an important question for which our times desperately need clarification. It's a question of my finding the time.)

Selfishness, Thy Name Is Identity Politics

Opine contributor Fitz recently made the following observation:

Its interesting (but not morally germane) that this story (and others) never seem to be able to find ... any straight men who are using surrogates to have children on their own.

In fact I recently came across this website, MenHavingBabies.org, advocating men using surrogates to create babies who are effectively motherless. The website clearly targets the self-identified "gay" man, even locating its conferences at "LGBT community centers," and touting panelists' LGBT activism. This is in keeping with Fitz's observation.

The morally germane point, however, is that identity politics (of whatever stripe) tends to trump all other moral consideration, making identity politics itself ultimately selfish. Identity politics is clearly the driving force behind creating babies with no access to mothers. Identity politics is likewise clearly the driving force behind neutering marriage.

Categorical Opposition

A short and shallow overview of marriage trends from the colloquial annals of grad students by Jorge Cham (PHD [Piled Higher and Deeper] comic). update... "Even if love is a psyco-social construct?"

Thursday, January 8, 2009

Gays, Gay Parenting & Tacit Admissions.

As I have been pointed out on this blog before, The issue of gay parenting and the NEED for children to have Mothers & Fathers couldn’t be more scientifically verifiable.

This is one of the main nexuses for arguing against same-sex marriage. It is always striking when this argument is (1) vigorously apposed and met with bafflement and surprise and then two seconds latter (2)you are met with intimations (and intimations ONLY) that the need of children for the opposite sex natural parent is real.

A recent argument I had at the Blog Culture 11 revealed exactly this tendency to strenuously deny while intimating at the need for “father” (like) figures..

I had written

“…As they already have. Social scientists (and casual observers) have noted that young men raised in environments without constant positive (married) Father presence will group together and engage in #1. Acts of ritual violence #2. Sexual predatory patterns…”

Someone called nycDave wrote in response

I disagree with Fritz here:

Social Scientists never once commented on the ritual of marriage or the paper license to be determining factors for those above two examples.

They HAVE, however noted that these activities are highest in young men where there is no Positive, Male influence.-So don’t slip in “married” or infer heterosexuality into that role just because you want to strengthen your argument.

Now of coarse nycDave was completely wrong on every count. No such studies have shown any such thing & the natural married family is the best predictor of success in child outcomes. The social science is in – and is not in any serious dispute. The presence of a “big brother, big sister” – or even an actual natural male sibling, or a close friend or Grandfather, or other -“Positive, Male influence” is NOT a substantial factor in child and adolescent development. This is a common troupe to invert causation. But neither income, nor various “Positive, Male influence’s” are what not make the critical and discernable difference in young men or the family in general.

Well David Benkof has done it again over at Gays Defend Marriage with a post entitled "What do experts on gay parenting say? You’d be surprised."

Go read the post at his sight. It has all the relevant links. It reminded me of another post here at Opine (by Onlawn or Charim) that took on similar intimations by Fannie & company. (If you guys can post it in the comment box I’ll link it)

Anyway – on with the show of Gays, Gay Parenting & Tacit Admissions!!

There’s more evidence that children need both a mother and a father whenever possible in an unexpected source: gay parenting manuals. These are the experts at gays and lesbians raising children, and several of them acknowledge that when children have two Moms or two Dads, they miss having a parent of the other sex. Some examples:

The Lesbian and Gay Parenting Handbook says some children accept their lesbian or gay parents, but “some children do express an intense longing for the other biological parent, talking about it frequently and emotionally…. Adolescents take particular interest in both their heredity and in gender-specific role models.”

The Lesbian Parenting Book says “It is very normal for children to long about and ask for a father…. It is natural to feel defensive when your child longs for a father. We encourage you to remain patient while she asks questions, sorts out information and comes to terms without knowing her father’s identity, or not having her biological father in her life. She needs to do it…. [Artificially Inseminated] children of lesbian parents may grieve never knowing their biological father.”

A majority of the Dads in the study described in Gay Men Choosing Parenthood acknowledged “that their children sometimes verbalized a desire for a mother at one time or another.”

In For Lesbian Parents: Your Guide to Helping your Family Grow Up Happy, Healthy, and Proud, lesbian Moms are encouraged to ask their daughters “if it’s hard sometimes not having a father. Let her know that you understand that sometimes it is hard.”

In Gay Dads: A Celebration of Fatherhood, a child, Tyler, whose two Dads no longer live together. When he asks if his mother can come live with with him, he is told “She would be welcome, but as a friend.”

There are many other examples. It is stunning to me (just like gay enthusiasm for Mamma Mia! and Dreams from my Father) that nobody notices the elephant in the room - gay people acknowledge that children need and want a parent of each sex, which should mean that whenever possible we should encourage that. However, gay EqualityMania™ sets in and nothing could possibly, ever stand in the way of total equality, no matter who it hurts, including children.

It’s Still Murder Until Peter Singer Has His Way

Even though the Seattle, Washington area is notorious for young, never-married motherhood being accepted as normal and positive, the news today is carrying this tragic story.
A 16-year-old girl suspected of drowning an infant boy in a toilet and throwing the body in the trash was charged with murder Wednesday. Lauryn Louise Last, of Port Angeles, was charged as an adult with first-degree murder in the death of the infant believed to be her son.
If only we had choices, like... 1. Government aid for teens, and for pre-natal and post-natal care 2. Various adoption options 3. Safe Surrender options 4. The "right" to several different kinds of abortion 5. Many different forms of contraception for women and girls 6. Condoms 7. The right to say "no" to sex, backed up by the prosecution of rapists 8. Public education, including sex ed 9. Hospitals that won't turn away anyone, and public healthcare options ...this kind of thing wouldn't happen. Oh wait. We do. Hmmm, maybe she felt like she couldn't tell her parents?
Prosecutors said Last's father, Ronald Last Jr., 41, was charged Monday with possession of a firearm and possession of methamphetamine, both felonies, and with concealing a birth, a gross misdemeanor.
No, if he was willing to aid her in a post-natal "abortion", surely he would have aided her in a pre-natal one. The sad truth is, that no matter how many accommodations we make, some people will do the wrong thing. Dropping shame and removing stigmas and downplaying ideals does not mean that things will be better. And seeing as how we have her name, I'd very much like to see the name of the "sperm donor" in this case. If he got her pregnant when she was 15, that’s statutory rape. Was he even aware she was pregnant? There isn't any mention of him whatsoever. If we want what's best for children, including having a higher percentage of children raised in healthy marriages, are we personally conducting our lives in a way that: 1. Discourages our teens from fornicating, and thus conceiving children out of wedlock? 2. Provides our teens with positive guidance and alternatives, coping skills, a strong foundation, adequate supervision? 3. Reacts with love – which does not mean abdication of moral leadership - when an unwed, dependent teen does become pregnant, encouraging that she provide a capable, married home for the child through either adoption or getting married? No baby should be murdered, especially by a parent. No matter how inconvenient the birth is the the parent(s), there are more options than ever.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009

Kenneth Starr Counters Jerry Brown

Jessica Garrison had a piece in today’s Los Angeles Times about legal briefs filed by Kenneth Starr in support of the California Marriage Amendment. It counters what was submitted by Attorney General Jerry Brown, who took the unusual step of arguing against the people he was hired to represent. This was the headline, as least online:
Gay-Marriage Opponents Attack Jerry Brown's Argument to Void Proposition 8
Someone who wants to defend the California Marriage Amendment is not automatically an opponent of marriage neutering. They could be for the rule of the people and the rule of the constitution, as amended by the people. As I've written many times, the term "gay marriage" shouldn't be used in this case – by either side. There is no requirement and never has been that any of the individuals receiving state licenses be heterosexual or homosexual in orientation. Two straight men could get a neutered marriage license together.
Brown's theory, Starr wrote, is "utterly without foundation in this court's case law" and "is not only unprecedented but contradicts the most basic understanding of the role of the judiciary in a constitutional democracy."
Starr could be absolutely right, but that doesn’t mean the court will agree. Let's pray that they do.
Legal experts said Starr and the Protect Marriage coalition had made a strong counter-argument in their filing Monday. Santa Clara University Law professor Gerald Uelmen, an expert on the state high court, said it "hits the nail on the head." "If you think of the Constitution as a compact between the people and those who govern us, to say the people have no power to amend a court's ruling simply because the court . . . says this is an inalienable right -- I think that is pretty far out."
Again, the Los Angeles Times was unable to quote a legal expert who could explain the merits of Brown's argument.
Brown has rejected the argument that Proposition 8 is a revision.
Thus arguing against the others who are trying to get the court to place itself above the state constitution.
Shannon Minter, the lawyer for the National Center for Lesbian Rights, said his team's legal position nevertheless has the same "core principles" as Brown's. "To be candid, we hadn't thought of framing it in this way," he said of Brown's approach. "But when I read the argument, I was immediately persuaded."
That smacks of "Hey, we weren't going to make such crazy assertions, but since he wants the same outcome as us, we'll say something good about it." As they typically do with California Marriage Amendment news, LATimes.com teased the story on their blog, and thus got plenty of reader comments. Most of it was the usual bad arguments from both sides, with a few good points. "riposter" wrote on January 05, 2009 at 05:41 PM:
The power of the court springs from the constitution, not the other way around. The people or their representatives, not the court, create the constitution. The court must use the constitution to restrain the actions of the people if those actions violate the constitution, including fundamental rights guaranteed by it, as the court see them. But since the people can change the constitution, they may override the court and any court established fundamental rights (like the one four justices thought existed and three didn't) through amending the constitution.
If the court throws out the California Marriage Amendment, we might as well save our money and time from then on and tell the Governor and legislature and voters to stay home and let the court make all decisions. The state constitution was amended directly by the people. The court is subject to the constitution.

Saturday, January 3, 2009

Help…The Fait Accompli is coming.. (or is it?)

Q. What single thing is inevitable about young people?

A. They grow up.

In his blog Gays defend Marriage writer David Benkof has a post entitled: Younger voters favor gay marriage. So?

In survey after survey, younger voters tend to favor gay marriage at higher rates than older voters. After a survey last May which showed such a trend, Field Poll director Mark DiCamillo said the results displayed a “generational replacement,” with older voters being replaced by younger voters who supported same-sex marriage.

But what if this isn’t a generational issue, but rather an age issue? Young voters tend not to be married, a fact that could be significant in terms of attitudes toward this issue. As today’s young voters get older and marry and have children, could they come to appreciate that mothers and fathers make different kinds of contributions to the raising of a child? It certainly is possible.

If that hunch is correct, then young voters’ support for same-sex marriage is related to their age, not their generation. A similar result is found among women - unmarried women are more likely to vote Democrat, whereas married women are more likely to vote Republican. Yet these are the same women! They’re just at different stages of their lives, and have different attitudes.

I’m not asserting that the younger-voters statistic is age-oriented rather than generational; I’m just raising the possibility that it might be.

In no other area of political life do such “macro –trends” get as regularly trumpeted as inevitable realities. Polls increasingly show more and more young people being against abortion for instance…yet, you never hear the media trumpet that Roe’s demise is “inevitable”.

New America Media, with support from several foundations as well as the University of California Office of the President (UCOP), commissioned Bendixen & Associates (B&A) of Coral Gables, Florida to conduct a survey of young people in California. They found that of all social problems…the one that most young people ranked as the most important was “Family Breakdown” (by 24%).This is important and encouraging. The generation that has grown up in the wake of the sexual revolution knows the pain associated with its wanton values. All pro-marriage forces need do is convince them that same-sex “marriage” locks in and reinforces the trends that lead to further family breakdown and make it more difficult to rebuild our broken family structure.

The IMAPP institute has done some parsing of the various polls on this subject. The paper entitled Same-Sex Marriage: What Does The Next Generation Think? Has some interesting eternals. One particularly encouraging one demonstrates that adult and social leadership (surprise) affects the views of young people. That is: If young people see important adults in their lives being vigorously and intelligently against neutering marriage, they are more likely to stand up against it themselves.

What does the next generation think about same-sex marriage? Depending on how the question is asked, a majority of young adults either oppose or support samesex marriage. In recent polls by reputable polling companies, the proportion of young adults (ages 18-29) who favor gay marriage ranges from 40% to 63%. Conversely, the proportion of young adults opposed to gay marriage ranges from 36% to 54%. In our judgment, the most neutrally worded polls find a majority of young adults currently oppose same-sex marriage, even as a majority of college students now favor it.

So rather than a fait Accompli – What we have is a momentary and malleable single answer on a easily manipulated poll question toward an easily manipulated population of young people. So…Keep fighting Opiner’s….The youth are the future and they are ours to win!!!!